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  1. avatar luxy says:

    I read the book, the vegetarian myth, , very disappointing. So sad that the extremists have taken over the debate, with vegangelicals on one side and the paleovangelicals on the other, to where the flexitarians and the people who have some pastured eggs, organic goat milk , coconut milk, coconut oil, whole grains, vegetables, berries, nuts, fruit,,are shoved down to where we can’t get a word in, , treated like we do not exist, do not count. What is killing people is soda, sugar, white flour products, koolaid Snapple, potato chips,,. Her you are only adult if you agree with her,, telling us we are not allowed to buy what we need, telling farmers they can’t sell to us even though they want to, and we want them to bring greenwashed as direct democracy should fool nobody. She mentions infanticide of kids who are thrthree yeyears old but does not condemn it, which sickens me. And the story of feeling so wonderfully alive right after eating a can of meat/tuna, before it had even a moment to digest defies logic. No meat ever did me like she described it doing her. I am not vegan or even total vegetarian. I am not a fat phobe. I eat nuts, coconut oil, coconut milk, eggs, unsweetenedbbaking chocolate, . I avoid sugar, white flour products, soda, juice, candy, potato chips, . I go days or weeks without meat and feel fine. Of course a sugary, white flour products, fat phobe diet makes people sick whether they are vegans or vegetarians, or meat eaters. Read, sugar shock, , read, predictive health, , read, silence kills, , watch the video, food fight! Read, Alzheimer’s disease what if there was a cure, , , but I amso sick of how the vegans and paleos have hhijacked the food health debate. It is time for the flexitarians and ovo vegetarian people who have some organic goat milk to step forward and bring sanity to the table.

  2. avatar Clarissa Bell says:

    I have been a vegetarian since birth – I’m 42 years old – and have the blood pressure of a teenager according to my GP; I don’t get ‘flu, I don’t have cholesterol issues and am in all respects healthy by the grace of God. Since becoming vegan and consuming raw organic vegetable juices, I feel even better. Nothing could convince me to change my diet because the proof for me is my health – which, since eliminating wheat, dairy and sugar – has got even better… And yeah, I eat non-GMO tofu.

    Everyone is entitled to eat exactly what they wish. You want to eat meat? Go ahead, It’s your choice. Each to his or her own… I would never dream of forcing my lifestyle on another. But by the same token, I expect to be respected and left in peace.

  3. avatar Adam says:

    I love how veggitarians and vegans just treat the arguments in our favour as bullshit (which by the way is what is used to grow your vegtables and comes from cows) however they think we are ignorant and stupid for not believing arguments in favour of them. Theses fights are stupid there are healthy and unhealthy vegans and veggitarians just like there are healthy and unhealthy people who eat meat that’s the fact neither diet is perfect and neither diet is gonna save the world so everyone just live the life they were given and stop trying to recruit people to be like you

  4. avatar Andrea says:

    Sorry…not buying any of these old rehashed arguments against an animal product free lifestyle. I challenge Ms Keith and any of her supporters to go and kill an animal (and make it a large one to really get the full impact)and then tell me how great meat is. It is only because someone else does the dirty work for her and you that you can be a cheerleader for consuming animal bodies. A la the old abattoirs and glasswalls saying… no school fieldtrips to see how your meet is ‘made’…I wonder why.
    No vegan is stupid enough to think that there is no death in producing our food. What we try to do is limit the amount of death, suffering and ddestruction we are responsible for causing.
    This book smacks of agenda to me…

  5. avatar Matt says:

    “Truly man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds them. We live by the death of others. We are burial places! I have since an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men will look upon the murder of animals as they look upon the murder of man.”

    – Leonardo Da Vinci

    “Animals are my friends…and I don’t eat my friends.”

    – George Bernard Shaw

    “I have no doubt that it is a part of the destiny of the human race, in its gradual improvement, to leave off eating animals, as surely as the savage tribes have left off eating each other.”

    – Henry David Thoreau

    “To my mind, the life of a lamb is no less precious than that of a human being. I should be unwilling to take the life of a lamb for the sake of the human body.”

    – Mohandas Ghandi

    “If man is not to stifle his human feelings, he must practice kindness towards animals, for he who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals.”

    – Immanuel Kant

    “Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.”

    – Albert Einstein

  6. avatar Shane E says:

    I quote this paragraph;

    Food manufacturers must love vegans – virtually all vegan calories must come from food manufacturers. There’s very little that the vegan can get from the local farmer. That alone is reason enough for me to not want to be vegan!

    As Rove McManus would say – What the?

    What a load of rubbish. Absolutely ridiculous.

    There is no reason any sentient beings, even SNAILS, need to die at all unless by natural causes or their carnivorous. There is enough land and water on this earth to grow enough grain, fruit and vegetables to feed every human being AND animal for an entire lifetime (yeah, without killing slugs that feed on lettuce!)

    If every human only ate and drank what they needed to, without the waste, this world wouldn’t be in the state it is at this current moment.

    You seriously need a reality check.

  7. avatar Sarah says:

    The vegetarian myth misses key and I do mean key information under almost any heading and is a horrendous example of cherry picking – the “link between eating disorders and vegetarianism being to worst example. There is a world apart from someone who is very, very poorly and needing an excuse to hide thier illness declaring themselves to be veggie/vegan (in order to restrict food in front of others) and your average veggie Joe. Strangly enough researchers wouldn’t dare cherry pick a link between “taking up a sport” and anorexia, or “eating on the run” and anorexia – both of these “links” could be said to true as suffers of almost always report both behaviours!

    Most of the worlds grain mountain feeds food animals – I used to know the UN figures, and it’s a myth that vegetarains are always on high grain diets and must rely on processed foods and their manufactors. Look up Ani Phyo and her vegetarain lifestyle which she promotes to others, stressing that veggies can get all they need at thier local famers market and she eats a low grain diet too.

    Any food habit group (omni- veggie – vegan) can “destroy their digestive system” hospitals are not full of sick veggies and vegans, in fact the longest living population on the planet is not the Okinawan’s as most people think – is a vegan population of Seventh Day Adventist in the US – look up Dr. Stephen Walsh’s work, a reviewer who doesn’t cherry pick information to prove a personal point, he’s a very conservitive reviewer of nutritional information (a rare thing indeed) and you’d never, ever find him using wikipedia as a “source”. I believe he still speaks occationally in the UK I’m sure he’s be happy to answer any question you put to him.

    I agree with Selena – if people don’t like vegetarains fine, grow a spine on it, but cherry picking information to suit and adgenda and ommiting whole areas of study is just plain irrisponsible, it does the areas of health and environmental managment as well and ethical debate a complete diservice

  8. avatar Zoë says:

    Hi Victoria – anyone can pick fault and find errors in almost any blog, let alone a 300 page book. I also saw the review when I posted mine – it’s all centered around the “did we evolve to eat meat” argument and nothing in that debate detracts from the three main arguments that Keith presents – as summarized in my blog.

    I’ve been where you are now so I do sympathise and you are right to seek information as this is your decision to make. Good luck with it!
    Best wishes – Zoe

  9. avatar Victoria says:

    Hi Zoe, have been veggie for 11 years, but now starting to consider seriously my diet and doing lots of research to aid my decision making. I read your review of “The Vegetarian Myth” with interest, however its interesting to read other reviews of this book (in particular this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R1GB4MWXP5HKXV/ref=cm_cr_pr_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1604860804&linkCode=&nodeID=&tag=) and I’m a little shocked that this author uses Wikipedia amongst other websites as her sources. What’s your view on this?

  10. avatar selena says:

    *sigh* if you don’t want to be a vegetarian anymore than that’s fine by me. just don’t bother with all the ‘… and this is why it’s totally ok to eat meat’ stuff, it makes you come of as a smoker who cherry-picks any study showing that smoking isn’t really all that bad.

    just grow yourself a spine and admit you simply like eating meat, and aren’t doing it for your health or for the environment. if you did that i’d at least respect you for your honesty and self-awareness, now you’re just making excuses.

  11. avatar jane says:

    i am astonished at the facile comment

    “Food manufacturers must love vegans – virtually all vegan calories must come from food manufacturers. There’s very little that the vegan can get from the local farmer. That alone is reason enough for me to not want to be vegan!”

    i eat raw fruits and vegetables, most of them are grown on mine or neighbouring land, and virtually all are grown in the country i live in (spain) i tend not consume grains or animals as i enjoy excellent health without them .. 20 plus years of not needing a medic suits me

    no doubt i will read this book but not because of this review…

  12. avatar Sigi says:

    Thank you, Zoe – a great summary of a really interesting book.

  13. avatar Deb says:

    Eating for Blood Type (a la Dr’s D’Amato) and GenoType could be an important addition to this conversation.

  14. avatar Stephen says:

    You might be interested in reading this web page.
    Sort of proves the point!
    Quote: Nature didn’t make a mistake in pairing graziers with grass; the graziers actually help the grass, and the grass holds water in the soil.

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