12 Responses to “Diabetes UK & Low Carb Diets – what is the official advice for diabetics?”

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  1. avatar Dave P says:

    Zoe if you look around Blogland you will see pretty much universally the Lo Carbers are considered Fanatics, throw in the word ATKINS and you are instantly dismissed as a joke.
    The way the case is presented needs to go something of a rethink. A concentration more on the success than the conventional ” bash carbs ” approach. IE what you can prove as opposed to what is claimed.

    You mentioned the DUK citing that there is no long term evidence of Lo Carb being workable, well it used to be the prescribed diet before insulin became available didnt it.

    You are so right to cite their list of Sponsors as Conflicts of Interest.
    For the record i am a T2 who follows a lo Carb regime and I dont regret it for a second, My medical records back to 2007 show an improvement it weight and Hba1c etc etc. From my original diagnosis in 2000 up to 2007 showed increased weight and meds looking at Insulin therapy in 2007 also a matter of record. But sadly they dont record the diet aspect so any success will be attributed to the meds or calorie /portion control, which i assure you i dont.

  2. avatar Matt says:

    I always have a question about the phrase “naturally produced meat.” For example, if we are talking about beef I always interpret it to mean grass-fed without all these chemicals that factory farms use to keep the cows large and healthy on a poor diet. This is often hard to find and when found it is expensive. If I go to a general grocery store and buy a steak, do you count this as “naturally produced” and think the nutritional value is worth the trade-off of unknowns surrounding mass produced meat?

    This is a conundrum I’ve had for a long time. I tend to eat a whole food, plant based diet that has essentially no high glycemic index carbs. I eat meat when I get around to a farmers market, but wish I could do more. Thanks!

  3. avatar PhilT says:

    I could never understand why diabetes – a disease of carbohydrate intolerance – was not treated by eating less carbohydrate.

    Then I realised that less carbohydrates means more fat, as our ability to utilise protein is limited, and that the establishment is now so lipophobic that they cannot bring themselves to recommend low carb eating for the simple reason that it is high fat eating.

  4. avatar Zoë says:

    Beautifully put PhilT! You’ve nailed it.

  5. avatar Nigel says:

    I got on the scales in March and they screamed at me to get off! I looked for a diet that I could follow for the rest of my life and not just until I’d lost a bit of weight. I hit on low carbohydrate/ paleo/primal whatever you want to call it and decided if I could eat meat and just cut out grains, I would probably be OK. I really miss Marmite on toast but compensate with fish and eggs. I’m losing about a pound per week as I still drink wine and indulge in other naughtiness.

    The week before last I decided to have a look at counting calories as an additional strategy. I found that I could halve my breakfast calorie intake without feeling hungry. Win-win. With a bit more exercise I believe I may be able to get up to losing 2lbs per week, again, without feeling hungry. I am also finding that food does not repeat on me now, which it did when I had french stick or toast.

  6. avatar Pauline says:

    My husband is a type 1 diabetic using insulin. Unlike the vast majority of diabetics he need to put weight on rather than lose it! However he does need to get his diabetes under control as his blood sugars can be all over the place!
    Any suggestions?

  7. avatar gollum says:

    With all due respect, I don’t seem to get the point of b) (thermogenic properties of various calories).

    The calories-in calories-out calculation is flawed because
    A. Calories-in is not constant – apart from different gut flora, digestion pecularities etc., people do not keep their calories constant, they eat until satiated (which depends on protein and other nutritients) or will risk serious damage. This is the established mechanism of LC “diets” – no hunger.
    B. Calories-out is not constant – apart from losing calories in shoddy digestion, nitrogen and ketones through fluids, metabolism depends on hormones and calories-in, entering starvation mode when not enough comes in through A.

    Now you seem to make the point in b) that protein calories use up more energy in digestion. I fail to see how this should be relevant, at least how it should be relevant compared to the huge effects of A. and B., since

    a) If you are actually burning precious protein-in for energy, you are probably doing it wrong. Protein is for muscle growth and tissue repair.
    b) Any energy that is “lost” in metabolism (unless excreted) simply ends up in body heat. Now it happens that a significant share of our calories is used for thermoregulation anyway (unless you are doing really hard physical work at about 20 MJ/d and more). These “losses” are not really helping, I should think.

  8. avatar Ellen says:

    Well what is it we are supposed to be eating then? I’m lost completely now! ‘m type 2 diabetic.??????????

  9. avatar Tara says:

    Hi Zoe,
    Firstly, I think your blog’s brilliant. I’m a 3rd year dietetic student really struggling with the fact that I will be expected to be follow the current dietary guidelines when I qualify, including the Diabetes UK recommendations. I hope you keep trying the reverse the obesity epidemic and writing interesting articles (although, I’m not going to get my hopes up that many people will properly listen to them as we have systematically brainwashed ourselves into thinking body fat could only have originated from dietary fat)…
    Anyway, I just have one small point about basal metabolic rate. You mention above that we can’t use carbohydrates for our BMR, but only fat and protein. I think instead the energy for BMR is mostly from fat (70%) and the remaining 30% is from carbohydrates. I don’t think protein would be used really except in extreme cases, such as starvation or illness. A few books I’ve read seem to indicate that’s the case anyway. The 2nd chapter in Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning (by Joel Cramer, 2008) covers it, too.
    :)

  10. avatar Ketopia says:

    Zoë,

    I just finished watching your hour long video on The Obesity Epidemic, reviewed your slides, ordered your book, and am reading your blog. I’d like to thank you: You have an amazing knack for distilling all the conflicting advice into clear, understandable and science-based recommendations. In this post alone you manage to cover a tremendous breadth of subjects (without sacrificing depth while you do it). How refreshing.

    Your section on carb restriction really hit home for me. I was one of those facing bariatric surgery as the solution to a problem that my doctors and nutritionists were never quite able to explain. Fortunately, I found a low carbohydrate way of eating before I went through with the surgery, and managed to drop 120lbs in about a year (still have a long way to go). I’m glad your advice is out there, helping others in the same boat, and introducing critical thinking into a domain long predisposed to dogmatic repetition of what essentially amount to meaningless platitudes and nostrums. The very fact that you would write (in bold no less) something like, “If you want to maximise nutrition, you must minimise carbs” brings a smile to my face as surely as it must drive the mongers of conventional nutritional wisdom crazy. Keep it up, and you just might change the world…for the better.

    -Michael

  11. avatar Zoë says:

    Wow! Thank you so much Michael – I really appreciate your lovely comment. A huge well done on your own success and may it be continued :-)
    Very best wishes – Zoe

  12. avatar nick says:

    Hello,

    Great article, I am training to be a Dietitian (first year of post graduate)and the Diabetes UK guidelines are contradictory and are extremely easy to critique(in my a opinion are terrible). Agree with everything in this post

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